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Now, see this thread shift, from a harmless beginning, a German having some on his own thoughts about the Germanwings disaster on an all English Cab-forum, to a German being yelled at on an all English cab-forum, for having his own thoughts on history, on England and Germany and especially the holocaust.

I think the highlight is really that “a German who questions the holocaust, there is a surprise”, that is how people are so used to the thought that Germans did the holocaust, that they can´t bear the thought a German questions it. An American can, an English can, a French can, but the people that are being accused of – they cannot.

So when I accuse you, dear reader, that your grandad has done a terrible murder and you say now hang on a minute you are quoting a lot of people accusing me, but what other proof do you have I want all the proof that there possibly can be, I mean where is the corpse of the murder victim to begin with can you show it to me that would be nice thank you, and then I say, sternly, no you murdered him, your family, of course it asked to much to dig him up and oh, it is also forbidden in our religion to dig someone up, so it is just so showing that you question the murder, right, now Mr. Smith or Mr. Paul can but your family has done the murder you have no right to question it!

You´re a whack job, you are deranged and you ought to be in a nuthouse, don t you dare question this murder the whole world knows your family has done it and we are so used to you being submissive, so stay this way and keep on give us all your money like before, we have liked that.

I think the whole world has stopped thinking and has started believing, that is where we have come to!

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Report: Pilot locked out of cockpit before Germanwings plane crash

(CNN)Latest developments:

• One of the pilots on board Germanwings Flight 9525 was locked out of the cockpit when the plane crashed, a senior military official told The New York Times Wednesday, citing evidence from the cockpit voice recorder.

• Lufthansa, the parent company of Germanwings, said “we have no information from the bodies investigating the incident that would corroborate the report in The New York Times. We will not participate in speculation, but we will follow up on the matter.”

• Helicopters have airlifted some victims’ remains from the site of the Germanwings plane crash in the French Alps, the Gendarmerie said Wednesday, according to CNN affiliate France 2.

Full story:

Investigators trying to determine what caused the crash of Germanwings Flight 9525 have made a startling discovery in an audio recording, according to a New York Times report: One of the plane’s pilots was locked out of the cockpit before the crash.

“You can hear he is trying to smash the door down,” a senior military official involved in the investigation told the newspaper, describing audio from the cockpit voice recorder, one of the plane’s black boxes.

“We don’t know yet the reason why one of the guys went out,” the official said, according to the Times’ report. “But what is sure is that at the very end of the flight, the other pilot is alone and does not open the door.”

Lufthansa, the parent company of Germanwings, said it was looking into the report.

“We have no information from the bodies investigating the incident that would corroborate the report in the New York Times,” spokesman Boris Ogursky said. “We will not participate in speculation, but we will follow up on the matter.”

The Times’ report is a “terribly Sh****ing revelation,” CNN aviation analyst Peter Goelz said. But he and other experts cautioned that it’s still unclear what could have been going on inside the cockpit.

Possibilities range from a medical emergency to something more nefarious, like a suicide mission, CNN aviation analysts said.

Officials previously said that hadn’t ruled out terrorism, but it seems unlikely.

French authorities revealed earlier Wednesday that they’d been able to access audio from the recorder, even though its external casing was damaged.

But they disclosed few details about what the recording actually contained, saying only that there was one audio channel with voices on it that went all the way up to the time of the crash.

“It is too early to draw conclusions to what happened,” said Remi Jouty, head of the BEA, the French aviation investigative arm leading the probe. “There is going to be detailed work performed on that audio file to understand and interpret the sounds and the voices that can be heard.”

Finding the plane’s second black box will also be critical to understanding the mystery of what went on inside the jet.

That box, the flight data recorder, hasn’t been found yet, but Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr said Wednesday that there’s a high probability it will be.

The mountainous terrain where the Germanwings jet went down is difficult to access.
The mountainous terrain where the Germanwings jet went down is difficult to access.
Investigators scoured dangerous terrain in the French Alps as they searched for clues in the wreckage.

Workers dropped to the crash site from helicopters, Jouty said, and had to be tied together because the steep area in the mountains is so treacherous.

‘We need to understand what happened’
Spohr said Tuesday’s plane crash “represents the darkest hours” in the history of his company, which owns Germanwings.

Officials are struggling to understand how an airplane that “was in perfect technical condition” with two experienced pilots “was involved in such a terrible accident,” he said.

But even worse, he said, is seeing the heartbreak of the relatives and friends of the victims who perished in the crash.

“What they have gone through is, of course, incomprehensible,” he said, describing what he said was an emotional meeting between the relatives and airline executives Wednesday.

And now, he said, the company’s focus will be taking care of them.

Special Lufthansa flights will take relatives and friends of victims to southern France on Thursday, so they can be near the search scene, he said.

“We need to understand what happened,” French President Francois Hollande said. “We owe that to the families.”

Victims from 18 countries
The doomed flight was traveling from Barcelona, Spain, to Dusseldorf, Germany, when it crashed Tuesday in the French Alps.

Germanwings said the plane reached its cruising altitude of 38,000 feet, and then dropped for about eight minutes. The plane lost contact with French radar at a height of about 6,000 feet. Then it crashed.

There were 150 people from 18 countries on board.

Mother, daughter from Virginia among the victims

Teams have begun the daunting task of identifying the victims’ bodies, but caution that it could take time to complete.

Clues in the debris
Investigators are still trying to piece together what caused the crash.

Jouty, the head of the investigation team, said the debris suggests the plane hit the ground and then broke apart, instead of exploding in flight.

Radar followed the plane “virtually to the point of impact” in the Alps in southern France, Jouty said. The flight’s last altitude recorded by radar was just over 6,000 feet.

FBI agents based in France, Germany and Spain are looking through intelligence sources and cross referencing the passenger manifest of Germanwings Flight 9525, two senior law enforcement officials said. So far, their search hasn’t turned up anything that “stands out” or anything linking the passengers to criminal activity, according to one official.

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Very strange report.
On every flight that I have ever taken if one of the pilots needed to leave the cockpit for say the toilet, The first steward would always go into the cockpit whilst he was away. Also the cockpit doors were fitted with one of them coded locks that you press the correct code from the outside.
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Very strange report.
On every flight that I have ever taken if one of the pilots needed to leave the cockpit for say the toilet, The first steward would always go into the cockpit whilst he was away. Also the cockpit doors were fitted with one of them coded locks that you press the correct code from the outside.

That was my understanding also. With other crashes recently I hope there isn’t a pattern emerging

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Oh dear! You have to feel for those poor souls.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m … prosecutor
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Oh dear! You have to feel for those poor souls.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m … prosecutor

Very sad day indeed. I’m sure there’s more to this.

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How about this then?

http://benjaminfulfordupdate.blogspot.de/2015/03/us-laser-test-destroys-germanwings.html?spref=tw

The official story would be exactly the kind of thing those thugs would use as a cover-up.

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Now, the official story is made up start to finish.

They analysed the voice box – right – captain banging on the door and yelling, yet inside only silence and regular breathing and the passengers remained calm, only at the last seconds they started screaming, right before the crash, which then took place at 700 k/ph.

Now, how likely is that?

The captain banging and yelling at the door and the plane coming down at this speed would have set the passengers screaming right away, moreover the plane would have been destroyed right in the air from the turbulences alone at this speed above ground.

And you wouldn´t expect the guy in the cabin remain absolute calm with normal breathing and not making one peep, right!? He would have had heavy, fast breathing and he would have probably yelled or cursed God for giving him this miserable life or cursed at the passengers, if this would have been like an amok run without a gun, that they now would have to pay the price for his miserable life.

No, just another lie from the satanists in the White House. :evil:

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Jochen Lembke wrote:
How about this then?

http://benjaminfulfordupdate.blogspot.de/2015/03/us-laser-test-destroys-germanwings.html?spref=tw

The official story would be exactly the kind of thing those thugs would use as a cover-up.

Are you for real!!!

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Sounding like the co-pilot decided to end it all
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What did say!? Don´t listen to the media, it´s all lies! Get your info from the net. ;-)
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What did say!? Don´t listen to the media, it´s all lies! Get your info from the net. ;-)

the media IS the net, the net IS the media….

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No way, there is the media and there ist the net. They have only begun to bring the media in the net. And they are about to control the net, that´s right, but it has only begun.
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Here is the thing about mainstream media and conspiracy theories.

Whereas you find a lot of sensationalist claims in the latter, that turn out to be hot air in the end, made up by nutters or people that live off sensationalist claims, you find a lot that did actually turn out to be true, hidden, secret information that finally went public.

Whereas the mainstream is always a lie. ;-)

You know, the media is all about sports, the weather, tits, celebs, celeb tits – and the rest is all lies. :mrgreen:

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No way, there is the media and there ist the net. They have only begun to bring the media in the net. And they are about to control the net, that´s right, but it has only begun.

your confused, all media AND net is interlinked and has been for years, they feed off each other

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-32070570

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Oh, the BBC, yeah, remember that broad from the BBC on 9/11, telling everyone that building 7 has also crashed? (When it in fact was still standing for another 20 minutes, just behind her, obviously she wasn´t familiar with the skyline.)

That has become a classic, there was even a guy who won in court so that he doesn´t have to pay the fees no more, claiming the BBC lies, because of that.

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You’ve joined Flug 9525. Wir glauben euch nicht! Solidarität mit dem CoPiloten.
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I have just joined this FB group founded to question the official version

https://jochenlembke.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/10487499_1378413395816956_139423452405565419_n.jpg?w=300 this is his picture (why didn´t he jump of golden gate, it notorious for jumpers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGV4aasfXKs

A video in AE, saying he was quite happy with his life, he just got a job as a co-pilote right?

This is the co-pilotes FB profile it it still works

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1378412899150339

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What did say!? Don´t listen to the media, it´s all lies! Get your info from the net. ;-)

How about we don’t listen to you and your sick conspiracy theory. have some decency and respect for the people who have died. SICK, SICK, SICK!!!

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There is not a spec of doubt that this man is not a whack job!

That this is just another lie by them!

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Please let respect out of this, grandad. You don´t believe me, fine. Yet, this has nothing to do with respect or no respect for the victims, it is only about truth, ok.

We have a tendency to lament about catastrophes we can´t change, whereas about those we can change we remain completey silent. What about the hundred millions of people that starve to death each year, while the world throws away one third of all the food?

Where are your feelings for them?

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This is the co-pilotes FB profile it it still works

https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1378412899150339

If its HIS how come there are new posts on when hes spread all over that mountain?

der….

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Ha – it is all the world that leaves comments now!

no ya whacko, its a NEW FB page, what planet are you on?

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it is only about truth, ok.

Truth??? You don’t know what truth is. You think that Germany won the 2 world wars when every one knows the truth and Germany lost. You will be telling us next that Germany won the 1966 world cup.

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Wannabehack: Why are you calling me a whacko?

I don´t know I thought that would be his profile, maybe mixed up the links but it is not important anyway, no one believes the official story, anyway.

I mean don´t you get it? This is exactly the way the media gets us distracted, they feed us all these plane-crashes and other catastrophes and makes us feel sorry for them – I don´t because I didn´t know these people. Yeah, grandad showed pity for them and then I come and don´t, althought these were German people, mostly and all I do is to blame the world for not giving me my licence back, that´s what you probably think.

But then you are wrong, I don´t have a life of mine anymore, for years I, as well many others, try to find ways out of the misery we are all in, and I don´t have time to grieve for people I didn´t know. Tens of thousands die in car crashes and I say ban cars, they kill childrens, but no one does, it´s “collateral damage” and then another catastrophe comes we all have to mourn about – I don´t do it.

I try to find a way out of the disaster we are in and if you don´t appreciate this, then don´t, then you are simply too stupid for it.

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Where did I say we won the wars? I have said both times we have won over England before, then America got lured into war although the American people did not want it. I did not say anything else.
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And my, don´t start on the Wembley goal! :mrgreen:
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Wannabehack: Why are you calling me a whacko?

I don´t know I thought that would be his profile, maybe mixed up the links but it is not important anyway, no one believes the official story, anyway.

I mean don´t you get it? This is exactly the way the media gets us distracted, they feed us all these plane-crashes and other catastrophes and makes us feel sorry for them – I don´t because I didn´t know these people. Yeah, grandad showed pity for them and then I come and don´t, althought these were German people, mostly and all I do is to blame the world for not giving me my licence back, that´s what you probably think.

But then you are wrong, I don´t have a life of mine anymore, for years I, as well many others, try to find ways out of the misery we are all in, and I don´t have time to grieve for people I didn´t know. Tens of thousands die in car crashes and I say ban cars, they kill childrens, but no one does, it´s “collateral damage” and then another catastrophe comes we all have to mourn about – I don´t do it.

I try to find a way out of the disaster we are in and if you don´t appreciate this, then don´t, then you are simply too stupid for it.

You do write some utter bo11ocks. :roll: :roll:

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Come on, let us calm down and give it a good nights rest. I am off now, good night
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ffs don’t get Gusmac started :lol:

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Come on, let us calm down and give it a good nights rest. I am off now, good night

Are you trying to convince us that it was an act by the US to try and cover up an atrocity caused by the actions of one of your fellow countrymen?

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ffs don’t get Gusmac started :lol:

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I have never in my entire life seen so many tiny pieces from an aircrash!

It seems more synonymous with a mighty explosion (from within)!

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I have never in my entire life seen so many tiny pieces from an aircrash!

It seems more synonymous with a mighty explosion (from within)!

It hit the ground at around 400 mph. Do you expect it to be in one piece? :roll:

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I have never in my entire life seen so many tiny pieces from an aircrash!

It seems more synonymous with a mighty explosion (from within)!

It hit the ground at around 400 mph. Do you expect it to be in one piece? :roll:

It went into a rock face so there won’t be much left of it.

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I have never in my entire life seen so many tiny pieces from an aircrash!

It seems more synonymous with a mighty explosion (from within)!

It hit the ground at around 400 mph. Do you expect it to be in one piece? :roll:

Yes I know.

It smashed just like sugar glass, I would expect the tail/an engine/whatever…..not just a part of an undercarriage.As they have said nothing is anything bigger than a car….not much of it burning. Ah well,we will see in time.

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I have never in my entire life seen so many tiny pieces from an aircrash!

It seems more synonymous with a mighty explosion (from within)!

It hit the ground at around 400 mph. Do you expect it to be in one piece? :roll:

Yes I know.

It smashed just like sugar glass, I would expect the tail/an engine/whatever…..not just a part of an undercarriage.As they have said nothing is anything bigger than a car….not much of it burning. Ah well,we will see in time.

Didn’t you ever see the experiment a few years ago when they ran a jet plane into a wall at this sort of speed.? It vaporised!

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Morning.

No one believes the official version, least the pilotes themselves.
Don´t forget that there were three professional groups that could see very easily and right away from their own background of expertise that 9/11 was a lie and that they therefore don´t believe the officials anymore. Those were the architects and engineers and the pilotes.

Now let´s take it right from the horses mouth ;-)

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No one believes the official version,

You mean that you don’t believe it. You just don’t want to believe that it was carried out by one of your own. Blame anyone else. :roll:

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The clue is in the logo. “RUMOUR” not fact rumour. :roll:

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At least Brighton and Hove Council had the right idea and kept you out.
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So, there is a report from a German news channel from the 24th, that there had been an emergency call coming from that flight. Most likely this info has been supressed yet.
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So, there is a report from a German news channel from the 24th, that there had been an emergency call coming from that flight. Most likely this info has been supressed yet.

What did the caller say? Was it the Americans have shot us down by any chance?

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Now, you see, Grandad, I didn´t come up with that theorie ;-)
So there are many theories going round as we all know, possible toxic fumes in the cockpit, too, which have been an issue for some time now.
But one thing is for certain, the official version is a lie! That this co-pilote dude is a patsy and there is a pattern of patsies at least since the Kennedy murder!
And another thing is certain, that there is only one evil empire and that is the US of A and only one axis of evil and that is Washington and London!
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But one thing is for certain, the official version is a lie!

You do print some [edited by admin]!

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And another thing is certain, that there is only one evil empire and that is the US of A

Haven’t you heard of ISIS?

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And another thing is certain, that there is only one evil empire and that is the US of A

Haven’t you heard of ISIS?

Or Natsi Germany

he must have heard of that one

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Germanwings crash: Co-pilot Lubitz ‘hid illness’

Dusseldorf prosecutor: “Torn-up documents and sick notes support the assumption that the patient was hiding his illness”

The co-pilot suspected of deliberately crashing a Germanwings airliner into the French Alps hid details of an illness, German prosecutors say.

Torn-up sick notes were found in the homes of Andreas Lubitz, they say, including one for the day of the crash, which killed 150 passengers and crew.

A German hospital confirmed he had been a patient recently but denied reports he had been treated for depression.

Lufthansa, which owns Germanwings, has announced new flight safety rules.

The new regulations are meant to ensure pilots are never left alone in the cockpit. Data from the voice recorder suggests Mr Lubitz purposely started an eight-minute descent into the mountains while keeping the pilot locked out of the flight deck.

There were no survivors when Flight 4U 9525 crashed in a remote mountain valley on Tuesday while en route from Barcelona in Spain to Duesseldorf in Germany.

Prosecutors say there was no evidence of a political or religious motive for his actions and no suicide note has been found.

In a statement (in German), prosecutors said they had seized medical documents from Mr Lubitz’s two residences – his Duesseldorf flat and his parents’ home north of Frankfurt – which indicated an “existing illness and appropriate medical treatment”.

The “fact that, among the documents found, there were sick notes – torn-up, current and for the day of the crash – leads to the provisional assessment that the deceased was hiding his illness from his employer”, the report states.

Germanwings confirmed it had not been given a sick note for the day of the crash.

Duesseldorf’s University Hospital issued a statement (in German) saying Mr Lubitz had attended the hospital on 10 March and last month.

Adding that it had handed his medical records over to prosecutors, it said reports the co-pilot had been treated there for depression were incorrect.

Germany’s Rheinischer Post newspaper, which spoke to the hospital, quoted its own unnamed sources as saying Mr Lubitz had been suffering from a physical, rather than a mental, illness.

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What is the betting that the doctor was American. :wink:
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What is the betting that the doctor was American. :wink:

Obviously

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Youd think doctors would be obliged to tell airlines if a pilot was bit on the edge….

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And another thing is certain, that there is only one evil empire and that is the US of A

Haven’t you heard of ISIS?

Yeah, who made ISIS? We all know that, that they are founded by the evil empire to weaken Russia. Just like the Taliban were, just like Bin Laden was.

But that´s with ginnies and bottles.

And which islamic terror regime is no better than ISIS when it comes to islamic right and is currently bombing the [edited by admin] out of Jemen civilians, with the axis of evil standing and applauding?

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And another thing is certain, that there is only one evil empire and that is the US of A

Haven’t you heard of ISIS?

Or Natsi Germany

he must have heard of that one

What do have to bring the Nazis up for? They were the result of the plot of England, France and Russia to annihilate Germany (because they were envious of it´s succes) and are extinct since 45, whereas the Anglo-American imperialismn, Wall Street and City of London is still bringing the world to the edge of nuclear desaster, ok!

So get your f-ucking military advisors out of Ukraine before something really bad happens, the Nato-putsch was bad enough!

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What do have to bring the Nazis up for? They were the result of the plot of England, France and Russia to annihilate Germany (because they were envious of it´s succes)

You really are a prize pillock.

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Just so know Grandad, we are entering a new era, it is not just me, but the whole of Germany is standing up, having found out that it has been lied to about history since ´45. We are all sick to the teeth of allied and zionist fake history that has been force-fed to us, to better control, manipulate and exploit us. History is written by the victors, does this sink into your brain!? So if you keep this up I will get really, really upset! :evil:
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Just so know Grandad, we are entering a new era, it is not just me, but the whole of Germany is standing up, having found out that it has been lied to about history since ´45. We are all sick to the teeth of allied and zionist fake history that has been force-fed to us, to better control, manipulate and exploit us. History is written by the victors, does this sink into your brain!? So if you keep this up I will get really, really upset! :evil:

dont mention the wars!

Germany nil England 2

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I was feeling all loved up and contrite and forgiving towards Herman der German – then he opened his gob

he must be related to Trotty Terry surely?

Same lack of basic concepts and too keen to shoot from the lip….

are they one and the same?

oh no, TT hates Der Vindsors so probably wouldnt vont to be ein sour kraut

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Thoughts?

The co-pilot of the Germanwings Airbus was a convert to Islam

http://speisa.com/modules/articles/inde … c.facebook

More here

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History is written by the victors,

We did win then. :mrgreen:

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Next time I fly the pilot can have a dump BEFORE we take off or stay where he is and steer the crate

maybe they need something like that;
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History is written by the victors,

We did win then. :mrgreen:

The Americans won. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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That is the bottom line, the Aaaamericans won and that´s why you take orders from Washington and it is not the other way round. But, like I said the financial mafia is global, so that is why most of the Americans are losers themselves, why only a small elite in America can really profit from the benefits of the American empire.
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why you don`t sleep yet, Jochen?

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I always get up at this time, Marek. Early to bed, early to rise… oh, beautiful English language! (Oh, cursed bloody imperialists) ;-)
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Does that “fake history” include the setting up of death camps and the murdering of millions of Jews? is this just a piece of “fake history” made up by the Americans and the British?

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That is the bottom line, the Aaaamericans won and that´s why you take orders from Washington and it is not the other way round. But, like I said the financial mafia is global, so that is why most of the Americans are losers themselves, why only a small elite in America can really profit from the benefits of the American empire.

ID rather be pals with the yanks than Angela Merkel, the EU is the antichrist, the 7 headed serpent and Germany hasn’t given up hopes of world domination……

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Now you think you got me, Grandad, ey? No, siree.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18492

Concentration camps are a British invention, the British Empire was there first, so Hitler got the idea of both from Britain, which he publicely admitted. To brutally murder anyone who is in the way of this Empire is a practise the British were good at in… the list goes on.

Yeah, well I am not so sure about gassing Jews that this actually happened. Well, why don´t you ask a Jew himself, what happened back then and that this might very well have been just a Zionist scheme to make Jews leave their comfy homes in Europe and come to Palestine, for the Holocaust on the Palestinians. Check out what Paul Eisen has to say about this, he is a Jew and English native speaker.

http://pauleisen.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/but-how-could-holocaust-not-be-true.html

All I know for sure is that Hitler was certainly a deranged person, he may have commited crimes, but he was also fighting the financial mafia (that had ultimately won over him) and that he was a lamb, compared with one of the greatest criminals in the world, Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin.

All I know for sure is that all misery in the world is caused by the financial oligarchy, which is partly Jewish. And that your goverment is next to the US-goverment backing those criminals, hosting and guarding them, being their military arm, that those criminals are responsible for every war since at least 1914 and that they are also responsible for hundred of milions starving each year.

You should not bring this subject up all the time, grandad, I am not a (German) nationalist, I am a globalist, a messenger of love and peace for everybody in this world.

But also for justice, for there is no peace where there is no justice.
So justice comes first and then there is love and peace and happiness, but not without justice.

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That is the bottom line, the Aaaamericans won and that´s why you take orders from Washington and it is not the other way round. But, like I said the financial mafia is global, so that is why most of the Americans are losers themselves, why only a small elite in America can really profit from the benefits of the American empire.

ID rather be pals with the yanks than Angela Merkel, the EU is the antichrist, the 7 headed serpent and Germany hasn’t given up hopes of world domination……

Your full of [edited by admin], Wannabe! Merkel is a half-jewish traitor to the German people selling us out to both America and Israel! She is just a lick-spittle to them!

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Yeah, well I am not so sure about gassing Jews that this actually happened.

That just about sums it up for me. You are a complete waste of rations. Your reply sickens me to the core. You will have to forgive me if I don’t agree with anything you have to say on this subject. I much prefer the version that my German mother taught me regarding the treatment of Jews and how she did what she could to help them and after the war she moved to England with my father and worked for a Jewish family over here.
here is a link to some survivors of the holocaust or perhaps you would call them LIARS!!!
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Isn’t holocaust denial a criminal offence in some countries?
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Your full of [edited by admin], Wannabe! Merkel is a half-jewish traitor to the German people selling us out to both America and Israel! She is just a lick-spittle to them!

Id say your barking (mad) herman…seek help ASAP

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Yeah, well I am not so sure about gassing Jews that this actually happened.

Jochen, please! I don’t really know what kind of globalist you’re and what kind of history they teached you but have you ever been to Auschwitz? it’s a day trip from your place ( take A4 east towards Krakow) o.k. two days trip but there are nice and quite cheap hotels in the area. fake?
nice, we started with plane crash and now we’re about holocaust…

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He cant fecking sing either

My singing is great, it´s just the recordings that weren´t so good so far.

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Now, look, let´s calm down a bit, I know that this is a delicate subject and I have been a bit fast with you guys, for I was quite shocked too when I did some thorough research in the net about all these matters and found about the truth. And I must admit, it is now only half a year ago that I found out the truth about 9/11 so I can´t really present me as the all knowing guy. So let me explain this to you…
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My singing is great, it´s just the recordings that weren´t so good so far.

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Now, look, let´s calm down a bit, I know that this is a delicate subject and I have been a bit fast with you guys, for I was quite shocked too when I did some thorough research in the net about all these matters and found about the truth. And I must admit, it is now only half a year ago that I found out the truth about 9/11 so I can´t really present me as the all knowing guy. So let me explain this to you…

what, that your afflicted?

i think we know

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About the holocaust – well I grew up as any German grows up, we get taught a lot about this! When I was in school (finished school with the Abitur), I choose history as a major. So we had two years of history in the classes 12 and 13 as a major and there was half a year on Jewish history alone. They forced this subject onto us, actually. So I have seen loads and loads of dead people, ok. Now this went on and on I developed the usual guilt complex as a German and before I found out about 9/11, like I said half a year ago, I would have jumped at everbody even questioning the hc. Now I hope you have understood this so far…. to be continued
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Isn’t holocaust denial a criminal offence in some countries?

it is a criminal offense in Germany.

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So to be sure about 9/11 I have watched this video, I have linked to here, 3 times like I said and in this vid it is a 100% proven, that 911 is a lie.

Now, I was deeply shocked, I couldn t believe that such a thing could actually happen. Which is exactly the reason a lot of people still believe in the official version because they refuse to believe that the US-government is evil. But when this sunk in, I came to a point where I said to myself I don´t take anything I have been taught for granted anymore, instead I question anything they have taught me. And then I began to do research in the net and it was really like in the Matrix when I entered the real world, the rabbit hole of the wonderland just got deeper and deeper. But now I know that most of politics is just lies and that the history we know is allied history, written by the victors….

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About the holocaust – well I grew up as any German grows up, we get taught a lot about this! When I was in school (finished school with the Abitur), I choose history as a major. So we had two years of history in the classes 12 and 13 as a major and there was half a year on Jewish history alone. They forced this subject onto us, actually. So I have seen loads and loads of dead people, ok. Now this went on and on I developed the usual guilt complex as a German and before I found out about 9/11, like I said half a year ago, I would have jumped at everbody even questioning the hc. Now I hope you have understood this so far…. to be continued

You haven’t a clue about truth. You just choose to believe other conspiracy theories and accept them as “fact”.
even when face with overwhelming evidence you will still say it is wrong.

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it is a criminal offense in Germany and Austria and only in these two countries and I am not denying it to be brief, now (cont)…
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I am not denying it like I said, I only want solid proof, because I have doubts about it, like lots of people, just google and you will see, in the Arab world for example no one believes in it and oh do I wonder why.

Now there is guy named Zündel and he did 10 years of research he collected all the evidence he had and went to court but they didn´t believe him they jailed him for five years.

Now here is the first inkling you should get there is something weird about this. First why didn´t they believe him and second why does someone get´s jailed for speaking out his mind? Why do you get jailed for denying something? And why don´t they supply all the proof people would need to really believe it?

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Now I know, Marek, there a guided tours in Auschwitz and they show you this and show you that but it is really the truth they are s-howing you? You go to Yad Vashem and they brainwash you – but why don´t they give us forensic evidence?

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I forgot the golden rule.
Don’t feed the troll.
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There’s a lot of good info on the net, but there’s just as much bullshit. You shouldn’t believe everything you read. :shock:

The whole truth about this plane crash will probably never be known, certainly not what was in the mind of the co-pilot.

As an aside, a very good friend of my grandfather was one of the guys who liberated Belsen in 1945. He died some years ago but hearing him talk of bulldozing emaciated corpses into pits left me with no doubt of what he witnessed.

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The whole truth about this plane crash will probably never be known, certainly not what was in the mind of the co-pilot.

According to this idiot the co-pilot had nothing to do with it. It was shot down by the Americans.

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It is very simple, forensic evidence of 1.5 milion Jews being killed and burned to ash that shouldn´t be to hard to get? Just start digging.

Oh, wait a minute now they are saying digging up graves is forbidden in Jewish religion, which is plainly a lie, because it is not. And then they go like, hey what do you want evidence for, as if killing six millions wouldn´t be enough, now you want evidence too, you obnoxiuos b-astard!

Yeah, just think of a murder and the judge would claim you guilty without s-howing proof. Just think of how long the O.J. Simpson trial went and that was only about one murder. Now, you´re saying your people killed six milions, what do want evidence for? Come on.

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Now, I have seen a lot of indications that there might have been a gassing, like witnesses and fotos of corpses (but none of the gassing, only drawings), but so far it was all like that one incidence where they said: “Two Slovakian prisoners escaped and told the officials about the gassing. From that moment on the US knew about it.”

Erm, what do think would happen when two Slovakians go to Obama and tell him that Angela Merkel sells out German people to US-corporations? Would Obama “then know that US-politics is evil”?

No, I am sorry but the more I looked, the more I found rather questionable stuff just like that.

So, show me solid proof and then I am convinced, but not giving this proof, but jailing people for denying it – is highly suspicious!

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When you look at Auschwitz you can see chambers for gassing, where they used Zyklon B, yes.
But it was used for desinfection, delicing, the chambers are much to small for humans.

Then are those larger rooms where they say there had been the killings, but you can´t shut them airtight and they are in the basement. Zyklon B needs a temperature of 30 degree celsius to be effective.

And so on!

Look guys, I am sorry, but you just have to do some reasearch in the net and you see, that the whole official story is rather wobbly, to put it mildly.

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gusmac wrote:
As an aside, a very good friend of my grandfather was one of the guys who liberated Belsen in 1945. He died some years ago but hearing him talk of bulldozing emaciated corpses into pits left me with no doubt of what he witnessed.

There is no question about the concentration camps and that a lot of people died in them.
No one denies that.
But you see a lot of people died in that war, right?
A good deal of those Jewish prisoners might have died by typhus and hunger in those camps, because they couldn´t be moved further east as it was planned. But how do you expect those people being rationed well when there were also enough German people dying of hunger?

This does proof a lot of hard-ship, but it does not proof the gassing!

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You have heard about the problems they have had in the US with the executions right?

Now, Germans are effective but I simply doubt that you can kill and burn 6 millions, when they can´t even execute a few prisoners in the US.

They might have actually tried gassing, according to a report, if it is believable, I don´t know, but the poor sods still weren´t dead still after 30 hours. So, I say all this alleged killing was simply not feasible, too, even if you claim that Nazis were those terrible people, which I don´t think. They were psychopaths, yeah, but look at the world today, man.

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Well, alright, just look it up in the net for more, it is full of doubts about the holocaust.
If you don´t believe me, fine.
But don´t think I am a bad person that I have these doubts!!!!
You would want solid proof yourself, real hard evidence, if your people were accused of such horrible crimes!
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Jochen, please again! stop you effing reading these bollocks! take two days off and effing go there and see yourself death plant, go to Auschwitz II Birkenau a few kilometers away then you’ll see hard evidence and tbh you’ll smell all these ashes spreaded around you don’t need digging graves they’re everyeffingwhere. I don’t blame you for grandad’s sins I even somehow like you but please stop bollocking us. btw. the Germans (Nazis) were kids in the mist compared to bloody Russkies. I agree that there egsist theory of conspiracy but we (you too) are too small to be in…

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A German who denies the Holocaust occured

well THERES a surprise

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btw. the Germans (Nazis) were kids in the mist compared to bloody Russkies. I agree that there egsist theory of conspiracy but we (you too) are too small to be in…

There you go! And don´t paste the Poles in heavenly colours, btw!

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I know you are stupid, wannabe, you have proven it enough!
But don´t make any false accusations, I don´t deny it, I doubt it, I want it proven solidly! Now for a stupid person this might be the same but it is not!
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I know you are stupid, wannabe, you have proven it enough!
But don´t make any false accusations, I don´t deny it, I doubt it, I want it proven solidly! Now for a stupid person this might be the same but it is not!

Time to add 1 to my banned list methinks

mate, that pilot killed 149 people cos he was mental

at least you can only crash with a 4 onboard………..

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There you go! And don´t paste the Poles in heavenly colours, btw!

never did, there are facts that he Poles are not innocent victim of nazism there is even more. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her”
http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/case4.html
or maybe should I blame poor ukrainians for theirs grandad’s sins?
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massac … rn_Galicia

anyway how about that crashed plane?

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o-marek wrote:
anyway how about that crashed plane?

its still crashed, and with a German at the controls

mind you, if they are all like Jocken its no surprise is it

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So, I can´t keep on writing about contradictions in the official version, for more do see the net, like I said, just one more thing for you have mentioned it, Marek, ash at Auschwitz.

Now we know that there has been a huge chimney and lots of coal and we all have seen this chimney puffing smoke, haven´t me. And we thought oh dear, this thick black smoke…!
But yeah, it was black smoke, ergo burned coal, for crematory fire is white, for human bodies are mostly water.

Right, I only want to beg you, don´t give me any more, but there was proof, for if there were, why are there still so many doubts and why is it denied that people want all the proof possible, when it is the biggest single crime in all of history we Germans are accused of? Can you explain me, why there are no excavations allowed? No you can´t.

So please accept my standpoint and let there be no hard feelings between us thereabout.

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o-marek wrote:
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There you go! And don´t paste the Poles in heavenly colours, btw!

never did, there are facts that he Poles are not innocent victim of nazism there is even more. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her”
http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/case4.html
or maybe should I blame poor ukrainians for theirs grandad’s sins?
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massac … rn_Galicia

anyway how about that crashed plane?

I appreciate this
now let´s go on with the thread subject, shall we

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Jochen Lembke wrote:
o-marek wrote:
Jochen Lembke wrote:
There you go! And don´t paste the Poles in heavenly colours, btw!

never did, there are facts that he Poles are not innocent victim of nazism there is even more. “He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her”
http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/case4.html
or maybe should I blame poor ukrainians for theirs grandad’s sins?
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massac … rn_Galicia

anyway how about that crashed plane?

I appreciate this
now let´s go on with the thread subject, shall we

No lets not. How about you just grow up and do one.

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I have just said the same to wannabe – you hate me now I get the point. But it is very easy to reconstruct in our postings who got abusive first and who tries to reason and who is just simply over-reacting. So I would recommend that you stop being abusive. I know it´s the dragon´s den here, I should not be surprised about some harsh reactions from the English, when I criticize them, but still this a discussion forum, not an abuse forum. Now I have nothing more to say regarding this.
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Jochen Lembke wrote:
Now we know that there has been a huge chimney and lots of coal and we all have seen this chimney puffing smoke, haven´t me. And we thought oh dear, this thick black smoke…!
But yeah, it was black smoke, ergo burned coal, for crematory fire is white, for human bodies are mostly water.

ah! Jochen, proof, proof, proof like effing Gypsy trying proof me that it’s not his hand in my pocket…
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Marek, by this you didn´t respond to the white smoke, you were just throwing a debunking site at me about cremations. But, there a millions of people in the world discussing this, millions of hours. We can´t simply not start another discussion here, at least I don´t have the time for that. I only said I have doubts and then all jumped in my face as I have murdered those people. Let this lie now.
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Jochen, does coal smoke smell of burnt meat?

Let me guess, that was a lie made up to make the SS look bad?

FFS man, get some help. You’re a crackpot. #-o

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